— For instance when you work with steel that seems to polarize people more. Why do you think that is?
— Well, some people like shiny things, other people don't. Inevitably. That's not the reason to do it. It doesn't matter what people like. I think one has to follow one's gut, follow the feeling, and then, hopefully, it leads to something meaningful. If it's meaningful for me, it'll be meaningful for you, I take it.
— Does the same apply for beauty?
— Beauty is not something that is static. Beauty is always changing; our concepts of beauty changes all the time. They are dependent on the beholder. It is never just one thing. However beautiful a person, a thing, whatever else, there is always that other side. «Oh yes, very beautiful, but…» and depending on the situation, the time… It's a fragile condition, and I think that is the key to recognize. Both beauty and ugliness, beauty and its opposite, are in flux.